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Rocko1
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9/13/2019
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I am thinking about the best route of going from Salton Sea to Cuyamaca Lake. Would be 3 day trip, in winter/cooler weather, with water caches. I put this route together. Any thoughts or improvements would be appreciated. Rough draft-https://caltopo.com/m/VBL1
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9/14/2019
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I've had the same goal for some time now, with most of my proposed routes coming in at around 65-75 miles. Your route comes in at about 68 miles from your Caltopo link. Doing that in 3 days seems ambitious, even with water drops, but maybe you're ultra-running it or hiking through the night? If you do it during a full-moon and get lucky with the weather, you can save on water by doing some night sections, especially in the eastern half where terrain is easier.
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Can't do full research right now but Google Lost Boys 50 mile ultra run. I used to run that foot race and it went from pinyon wash to cuyamaca vc/school. Will take a look at route later when I get a chance.

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9/15/2019
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I might offer a suggestion of cutting south at earthquake valley and thru blair/box cyn and going up oriflamme instead.

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9/15/2019
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Here is the back of one of my old shirts from the race, it can give you some real miles along the way.


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9/15/2019
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Roughly following San Felipe Creek/Old Kane Springs Rd to Fish Creek to Sandstone Canyon to Storm or Cottonwood or Oriflame Canyon would shave off 6-10 miles. Looks like a nice trek whatever route you chose.
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9/16/2019
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If I had the extra time I would join you....looks like a great route.

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9/16/2019
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tommy750 wrote:
Roughly following San Felipe Creek/Old Kane Springs Rd to Fish Creek to Sandstone Canyon to Storm or Cottonwood or Oriflame Canyon would shave off 6-10 miles. Looks like a nice trek whatever route you chose.



I will look at modifying the route. Thanks for the tip.

The reason I chose a more northern route is 1) I am more familiar with that area and 2) it seemed to have easier points to do water caches and or bail out points.
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9/16/2019
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dsefcik wrote:
If I had the extra time I would join you....looks like a great route.

That would be great.

I modified the track a bit adding cache locations/camp spots. Here is how it breaks down now.

Day 1) 28 miles 1,000ft of gain
Day 2) 14 miles 2,450ft of gain
Day 3) 22 miles 4,000ft of gain

Needs further work to lessen day 1, extend day 2.
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9/16/2019
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dsefcik wrote:
I might offer a suggestion of cutting south at earthquake valley and thru blair/box cyn and going up oriflamme instead.



I think this makes sense. Seems to cut 2.5 miles and 800ft gain off. Thanks.
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I would also suggest staying out of Oriflamme if it is a holiday weekend or such as there will be 5 million jeeps on that dirt road.

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dsefcik wrote:
I would also suggest staying out of Oriflamme if it is a holiday weekend or such as there will be 5 million jeeps on that dirt road.



Thanks. I did consider that. Hitting the PCT near Scissors Crossing would eliminate that issue but add a couple of miles.
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Sounds like a interesting adventure trek. Personally I would follow the San Felipe creek, cut across Split mountain gap and onward to Auga Caliente route to avoid the traffic along the 78. Packing water would be the main issue. Good luck. Keep us posted.
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Rocko1
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rockhopper wrote:
Sounds like a interesting adventure trek. Personally I would follow the San Felipe creek, cut across Split mountain gap and onward to Auga Caliente route to avoid the traffic along the 78. Packing water would be the main issue. Good luck. Keep us posted.



Doing water caches on that route would be difficult-that's why I chose to finish the days near a road. Thinking I might have my brother meet me at the cache/camp locations too.

Even in cooler weather I will probably need to carry 6L.
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Rocko1 wrote:
rockhopper wrote:
Sounds like a interesting adventure trek. Personally I would follow the San Felipe creek, cut across Split mountain gap and onward to Auga Caliente route to avoid the traffic along the 78. Packing water would be the main issue. Good luck. Keep us posted.



Doing water caches on that route would be difficult-that's why I chose to finish the days near a road. Thinking I might have my brother meet me at the cache/camp locations too.

Even in cooler weather I will probably need to carry 6L.



Right. The Kane spring to Auga Caliente route is over 35 miles on foot with a lot of cross country. Would probably need a water cache' at or around split mountain or carry 2 days worth. Having your brother help is a great idea.
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